Comments on: What’s black and blue and floats in the harbour? http://www.ohmenerves.com/20060605/whats-black-and-blue-and-floats-in-the-harbour Jesus loves me. Everyone else thinks I'm an ass. Sat, 28 Jan 2012 01:39:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Nelly http://www.ohmenerves.com/20060605/whats-black-and-blue-and-floats-in-the-harbour/comment-page-1#comment-105 Nelly Tue, 13 Jun 2006 19:10:00 +0000 http://www.ohmenerves.com/20060605/whats-black-and-blue-and-floats-in-the-harbour/#comment-105 Hey Steve, you already know how I feel about the term. The first time I heard you say it, I was shocked because growing up in Ontario, I always understood the term to be derrogatory ... and offensive. Even after you assured me that it was not strictly used in a derogatory manner, I still can't bring myself to say it. It's just wrong (in my humble opinion). It's like calling a Quebecer a "frog" (derogatory for French) or a "pepsi" (derogatory but not sure why), or an Italian a "whop" (stands for "Without Papers" - derogatory insinuation that all Italians are illegal aliens), and so on. Please don't use it anymore :) Hey Steve, you already know how I feel about the term. The first time I heard you say it, I was shocked because growing up in Ontario, I always understood the term to be derrogatory … and offensive. Even after you assured me that it was not strictly used in a derogatory manner, I still can’t bring myself to say it. It’s just wrong (in my humble opinion). It’s like calling a Quebecer a “frog” (derogatory for French) or a “pepsi” (derogatory but not sure why), or an Italian a “whop” (stands for “Without Papers” – derogatory insinuation that all Italians are illegal aliens), and so on.

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]]> By: Pender http://www.ohmenerves.com/20060605/whats-black-and-blue-and-floats-in-the-harbour/comment-page-1#comment-103 Pender Fri, 09 Jun 2006 21:58:00 +0000 http://www.ohmenerves.com/20060605/whats-black-and-blue-and-floats-in-the-harbour/#comment-103 Niall, you're a hick, but I swear if you cry about it this time it'll be TWICE as bad next time. I just came back from quebec, they're a funny group of people (jerks). I was waiting for my order to be given to me in KFC in the airport and someone's kid's meal was ready. The guy behind the counter called "number 71.. anyone have number 71? HELLO? 71. KID'S MEAL. WHOEVER HAD ORDER 71 FOR THE KID'S MEAL, COME PICK IT UP". The guy was getting very mad, VERY, VERY fast. Well the guy who ordered the kid's meal was chatting to someone he just met in the airport and gave a hug to and was obviously involved in the conversation, he finally realized his number was up and went over and picked up his meal. Some other fine quebec citizen proceeding to yell at the guy to pay attention and to pick up his order (in french). The guy picking up the order just looked at him confused and walked away. It's this immediate angry verbal abuse that really gives that province character. It's a cultural thing. Niall, you’re a hick, but I swear if you cry about it this time it’ll be TWICE as bad next time.

I just came back from quebec, they’re a funny group of people (jerks). I was waiting for my order to be given to me in KFC in the airport and someone’s kid’s meal was ready. The guy behind the counter called “number 71.. anyone have number 71? HELLO? 71. KID’S MEAL. WHOEVER HAD ORDER 71 FOR THE KID’S MEAL, COME PICK IT UP”. The guy was getting very mad, VERY, VERY fast. Well the guy who ordered the kid’s meal was chatting to someone he just met in the airport and gave a hug to and was obviously involved in the conversation, he finally realized his number was up and went over and picked up his meal. Some other fine quebec citizen proceeding to yell at the guy to pay attention and to pick up his order (in french). The guy picking up the order just looked at him confused and walked away. It’s this immediate angry verbal abuse that really gives that province character.

It’s a cultural thing.

]]> By: Niall http://www.ohmenerves.com/20060605/whats-black-and-blue-and-floats-in-the-harbour/comment-page-1#comment-102 Niall Fri, 09 Jun 2006 17:25:00 +0000 http://www.ohmenerves.com/20060605/whats-black-and-blue-and-floats-in-the-harbour/#comment-102 i've been called a hick all my life, so what!? i’ve been called a hick all my life, so what!?

]]> By: Steve http://www.ohmenerves.com/20060605/whats-black-and-blue-and-floats-in-the-harbour/comment-page-1#comment-101 Steve Fri, 09 Jun 2006 15:37:00 +0000 http://www.ohmenerves.com/20060605/whats-black-and-blue-and-floats-in-the-harbour/#comment-101 Jody: you were right the first time: irreverent: showing lack of due respect or veneration; Jody subconsciously agrees with me, but it's cooler to agree with Pender. Jody: you were right the first time:

irreverent: showing lack of due respect or veneration;

Jody subconsciously agrees with me, but it’s cooler to agree with Pender.

]]> By: Jody http://www.ohmenerves.com/20060605/whats-black-and-blue-and-floats-in-the-harbour/comment-page-1#comment-100 Jody Thu, 08 Jun 2006 20:51:00 +0000 http://www.ohmenerves.com/20060605/whats-black-and-blue-and-floats-in-the-harbour/#comment-100 > the label is irreverent. I meant "irrelavant", gosh darn it. > the label is irreverent.

I meant “irrelavant”, gosh darn it.

]]> By: Jody http://www.ohmenerves.com/20060605/whats-black-and-blue-and-floats-in-the-harbour/comment-page-1#comment-99 Jody Thu, 08 Jun 2006 20:47:00 +0000 http://www.ohmenerves.com/20060605/whats-black-and-blue-and-floats-in-the-harbour/#comment-99 I agree with Pender's disagreement. The guy who said "I'd have to be newfie not to understand that" could've said "I'd have to be Newfoundlander not to understand that" - the label is irreverent. As Steve indicated, the guy was being derogatory against Newfoundlanders; I doubt he was thinking "I better use the word 'newfie' for this insult because people won't get it if I use 'Newfoundlander'". Are there terms for folks from other provinces? Nova Scotians called "bluenoses"? New Brunswickers called "Irvings"? I dunno. It's not the "newfie" word that's the problem; it's the impression people have of Newfoundland in general. They're all just jealous they don't have their own nickname. I agree with Pender’s disagreement.

The guy who said “I’d have to be newfie not to understand that” could’ve said “I’d have to be Newfoundlander not to understand that” – the label is irreverent. As Steve indicated, the guy was being derogatory against Newfoundlanders; I doubt he was thinking “I better use the word ‘newfie’ for this insult because people won’t get it if I use ‘Newfoundlander’”.

Are there terms for folks from other provinces? Nova Scotians called “bluenoses”? New Brunswickers called “Irvings”? I dunno. It’s not the “newfie” word that’s the problem; it’s the impression people have of Newfoundland in general. They’re all just jealous they don’t have their own nickname.

]]> By: Steve http://www.ohmenerves.com/20060605/whats-black-and-blue-and-floats-in-the-harbour/comment-page-1#comment-98 Steve Tue, 06 Jun 2006 19:46:00 +0000 http://www.ohmenerves.com/20060605/whats-black-and-blue-and-floats-in-the-harbour/#comment-98 "Newfoundlanders", Chris.... "Newfoundlanders". Haven't you been listening? :) “Newfoundlanders”, Chris…. “Newfoundlanders”. Haven’t you been listening?

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]]> By: Niall http://www.ohmenerves.com/20060605/whats-black-and-blue-and-floats-in-the-harbour/comment-page-1#comment-97 Niall Tue, 06 Jun 2006 18:16:00 +0000 http://www.ohmenerves.com/20060605/whats-black-and-blue-and-floats-in-the-harbour/#comment-97 newfies are the new emo! newfies are the new emo!

]]> By: Steve http://www.ohmenerves.com/20060605/whats-black-and-blue-and-floats-in-the-harbour/comment-page-1#comment-96 Steve Tue, 06 Jun 2006 16:30:00 +0000 http://www.ohmenerves.com/20060605/whats-black-and-blue-and-floats-in-the-harbour/#comment-96 I'm not saying I'm going to start being offended... I just won't use the word so freely myself. I mean, if some people use it interchangably with the word "stupid" and it doesn't cost me anything to stop (not even integrity), then why not. I was at the pool hall two weeks ago and this guy (from Quebec) says "I'd have to be newfie not to understand that." Now, this is an otherwise decent guy, and he was visibly embarrassed when I told him I was from Newfoundland. That's not ignorance, that's willful malice on his part. He KNEW what he was saying and how he was saying it. He won't do it again (in front of me anyways) because he realizes what he said. AND if he talks about it, he'll talk about his social faux pas and not how whiny I was. It's only a chip if your response is exaggerated and unreasonable. Attempting to adjust attitudes and social ignorance IS showing strength of character. I’m not saying I’m going to start being offended… I just won’t use the word so freely myself. I mean, if some people use it interchangably with the word “stupid” and it doesn’t cost me anything to stop (not even integrity), then why not.

I was at the pool hall two weeks ago and this guy (from Quebec) says “I’d have to be newfie not to understand that.” Now, this is an otherwise decent guy, and he was visibly embarrassed when I told him I was from Newfoundland. That’s not ignorance, that’s willful malice on his part. He KNEW what he was saying and how he was saying it. He won’t do it again (in front of me anyways) because he realizes what he said. AND if he talks about it, he’ll talk about his social faux pas and not how whiny I was.

It’s only a chip if your response is exaggerated and unreasonable. Attempting to adjust attitudes and social ignorance IS showing strength of character.

]]> By: Pender http://www.ohmenerves.com/20060605/whats-black-and-blue-and-floats-in-the-harbour/comment-page-1#comment-95 Pender Tue, 06 Jun 2006 01:29:00 +0000 http://www.ohmenerves.com/20060605/whats-black-and-blue-and-floats-in-the-harbour/#comment-95 Hmm.. I tell ya, I still disagree. From the article's connotations it's like calling a black person a nigger, a slur created by stupid, ignorant, scared, biggots. They were opressed to death and that word was a dagger in the back. Being called "newfie" is resembling how black people can call each other "mah nigga" and it not be a slur, but if a white guy says it, look out. I'd rather not stoop to that level, having a chip on my shoulder to make me hate other people who use the term out of their OWN ignorance. If people think I'm a dumbass "newfie", oh well, so be it. I'd rather prove them wrong with my strength of character than have that chip. If I don't prove them wrong, then oh well, they aren't worth my time anyhow. Sitting around crying about it isn't going to change anyone else's mind either, and in fact, it'd look more like it's true if I cry about it (kinda like crying in court makes you look guilty, even if you're not). The whole thing just sounds like something manufactured by someone else's ideals to stress and cry over for no good reason other than their own pridefulness. "stop makin' fun of me! waaahhhh!" Hmm.. I tell ya, I still disagree.

From the article’s connotations it’s like calling a black person a nigger, a slur created by stupid, ignorant, scared, biggots. They were opressed to death and that word was a dagger in the back. Being called “newfie” is resembling how black people can call each other “mah nigga” and it not be a slur, but if a white guy says it, look out. I’d rather not stoop to that level, having a chip on my shoulder to make me hate other people who use the term out of their OWN ignorance. If people think I’m a dumbass “newfie”, oh well, so be it. I’d rather prove them wrong with my strength of character than have that chip. If I don’t prove them wrong, then oh well, they aren’t worth my time anyhow. Sitting around crying about it isn’t going to change anyone else’s mind either, and in fact, it’d look more like it’s true if I cry about it (kinda like crying in court makes you look guilty, even if you’re not).

The whole thing just sounds like something manufactured by someone else’s ideals to stress and cry over for no good reason other than their own pridefulness. “stop makin’ fun of me! waaahhhh!”

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